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Darren Webber, CEO of TTC joins us to explain what he means by that and why there’s a need for software companies whose sole purpose is to test software made by other companies. He also shares his career journey from picking garlic to entering the C-Suite and tells us why he thinks lazy "desk hugging" heads in big organisations are utter bullshit.

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