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David is the founder of Next Step Advisors, a consultancy for family businesses helping them avoid the potential pitfalls of working with your closest relatives.

David chats about his experiences running his family's companies, for all of their successes and failures, which spawned the idea for Next Step Advisors. Andy get's in on the act, speaking frankly about his experiences growing up as part of Oury Clark: the struggles, expectations, mistakes and lessons learnt. There may be some oversharing.

David also tells us why he thinks companies who don't give back to their communities qualify for the big bin of bullshit

David's recommendations:

1000 Gifts - Ann Voskamp (book)

Unbroken (film)

Against All Hope - Armando Valladares (book)

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